Rural internet

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I believe its time we get off our asses and help other companies who are trying to push into the rural towns to provide internet They are companies out there who are willing to improve residential and business internet in smaller towns when Bellmts Is not and doesn't plan on doing anything for us. Either reusing the old Coax cable TV system or plowing in their own fiber yes wireless internet is better now but doesn't compare to a wired network. Its time that we go to our RM and give the people notice about what needs to be done to improve our services. I know there's is a mandate to be made by 2031 50/10 that is already achieved in areas where LTE+ is being offered, so their job is done.oo our speed test says over 50mbps doesn't mean anything when you go to actually try and use it. It's time we give these smaller companies more notice and help them bring their services to our Rural communities. I don't need a lesson on how the network is ran in our province I know it all, and I know it cost millions for Bellmts to replace their old DSL copper network because they never did anything to improve it over 20 years of them taking money from us.  If Bellmts Budget some money properly over the coarse of 20 years back into their Rural market it wouldn't have gotten so bad. Give us 10mbps with 2mbps of upload even and more people with be happy. but don't change anything for over 20 years except increase bandwidth to towns is a complete joke. 100kbps upload speeds WTF! lol. I have personally contacted about 50 people wanting to change from BellMTS in my Rural town but obviously, need a lot more it's the bundling that tricks people into keeping BellMTS in the rural market o save 6 bucks but have crappy services for the next decade.  I like to see Commstream is reusing the old cable system and pushing more into the rural market hoping they can come to my town in the next few years. I see highspeed crow & winkler is pushing their fiber to more communities which is nice to see now let's help them out I know personally how much red tape there is when trying to implement services into RMs and towns. The transaction would go quicker if we can get residents on board beforehand.
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Talk to your RM. Find out what is needed to get a concern of citizens on their agenda. Often a petition with names, addresses and signatures will do that.

Focus less on the names of companies involved with the current problem and those that may have solutions.

Something along the lines:

We, the undersigned, strongly desire improved Internet access in (your community name). We are requesting you act on our behalf and prepare a report back to the public within six months on what improvements can be made including the possibility of a community owned Internet co-op.

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Then have people out their full name, address, signature and date.

This then pushes your RM who both has the finances and authority to start taking action. That you have 50 interested people is already a big step in the right direction. Your RM could step in an effectively become the ISP if there is enough public support. With the 20 year view forward from today that is also now being thought of as the prefered approach.
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Yes, I had a plan in place for my Community last year and was ready to push forward then I found out there could be a conflict of interest so I backed out. So the only way to improve services for my community is to give people notice and to help an existing ISP who want to improve our internet services and make sure its viable
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Even if you are stuck with an existing provider there are frameworks and models in place to look at where a community funds the improvement for a company and recovers their costs over time. It has been used for wireless coverage in the past but could be adapted for Internet. It's on the local.governement (RM) to act and the citizens to put pressure on them.

This fall is actually a civic election year so it's a great time.to be organizing your neighbours.
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Jack, I fully agree.
I am moving from a small town that offers "essential" internet services (DSL) that just covers my needs (most days), but now moving to a different RM that has DSL service (in both towns less than 5 min. away), including the business off the main highway that has essential high speed DSL service, 7 KM down the road that I will be moving too. This means no hard wired ISP option for me anymore... .  Seems sad that the ISP (of no-name mentioned, but related to the domain URL this forum hosts ;)  ) would not even bother consider installing a DSLAM just down the road, or at the very least provide a quote/estimate and/or at best a min. requirement of customers down this 7 KM stretch of road that it would take to get them off their lazy buts.

If I still lived in Winnipeg, I am sure that the response would not be "Talk to your RM" or talk to the city counsel.

Seems to be that customers are no longer priority and profits are on the only thing large ISP's give a crap about.
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Since you clearly already made up your mind no point telling you how community owned broadband such as what your RM could do is the best route even for large urban centers like Winnipeg.


Enjoy your off the grid living.
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Get your community to look at the Morden model. Morenet is rolling out now essentially as a public utility. My area is not eligible to connect yet, but my understanding is the wireless towers are connected to the Manitoba Hydro fiber hub where Morenet will purchase wholesale bandwidth sustained by property taxes. Mill rate did not increase to cover this, but in fairness appraisals did, so we need to evaluate as this comes online.

One time install fee of around $400 (plus you're responsible for any maintenance required going forward), and then no more bills.  That's $75 saved per month on my very sad advertised BellMTS 5/0.5 plan (which typically crawls to 1.5/0.1) to upgrade to the city's 100/100 plan. If I have to get an installer out every year for maintenance, I'm still way ahead of the game.

Tack on the fact that I will lose some bundling and there's no reason I can't shop around for the best options for mobile and TV now as well. BellMTS dropped the ball on this one  and I will be the giddy person calling them to cancel a lot of services the day they roll Morenet out to my block later this summer.
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I installed a commercial cell amp, and rogers gave me a rocket hub unlimited usage  loyalty plan for 1 year no contract. Wife and I cancelled all our MTS services. We are now achieving speeds of 60/25 on LTE+ latency around 60-88ms to toronto not great but not bad at all we are happy. I know for a fact that their is a company coming into our town that will offer greater speeds next year. Been using the rocket hub for 2 months now and we are super happy with it.
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