New cell towers highway 75

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So with the new cell towers in letellier and dominion city being 12km away still have crap service how is this an improvement this is the 21st century and we have towers that will not surpass the width of the highway is super frustrating.
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Joshua, I do not work for MTS, but I do work in the communications industry. I asked a colleague about your concerns, and have the following to share with you:

- Three new towers recently went up along Highway 75. They are located in Silver Plains (Highway 75 and 205 area), St. Jean Baptiste and the Letellier/DC area.

- The towers are for DATA ONLY (no voice calls), and support LTE only, on Bands 4 and 5. (Band 4 is AWS 1700/2100, and Band 5 is 850.)  850 has better range, but slower speeds, due to smaller channel bandwidth.

- The towers have sectorized coverage (directional antennas) which are optimized to provide corridor coverage north/south along Highway 75.

- Starting early next year, BellMTS will begin to offer Voice-over-LTE (VOLTE). This means customers with recent phone hardware (such as newer iPhone and Android devices) will be able to make voice calls on the LTE network. Currently, all voice calls are routed over 3G/HSPA -- which means your handset will use a tower besides the three new ones listed above.

- You may need to upgrade your handset, depending on how old it is, if you want LTE service. Phones such as the iPhone 4, 4S, etc, do not support LTE.

As an experiment, you may wish to try using a VoIP service such as Fongo.com (free) to see if  you have better call quality, as your handset, if LTE capable, will use LTE data for the call. This means you'll access the new towers and have a much stronger signal than if you were to access the distant HSPA/3G tower for a voice call.

Hope this information is useful. Please share your findings.
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Hey Shaun, thank for your comments I will definitely try what you recommend with Fongo sounds interesting as for my phone it's the lg g6 and I only get 1 bar on H+ and a whopping download speed of .64 mbps. Some positive things I suppose is I can now text it takes 30-45 seconds per text and then I will get 20 back 15 minutes later all in one shot but it's a start and better then what it was.
The only thing I wish is if we are in a location where service is not any where near full capability we should have our Bill adjusted according to the data and phone use. 20+ days a month my smartphone is only used with my Wi-Fi and not cellular service.
Thanks again for you input.
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Three brand new expensive towers and you still can't make a phone call? What is the point of providing a data only service if you don't yet provide VOLTE and have an LTE phone? It would appear that the dropped calls and dead zones along # 75 will continue! 
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Be patient. MTS, nor any other business, should prioritize their budget to support ancient, outdated, capacity-limited technology. When you’re driving on the highway, shouldn’t you be focussing on driving, not playing with your phone?
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Shaun here doesn't know what he's talking about.

The towers are running band 4 LTE which is stupid and the LTE range off them isn't very good.

That being said they are also running 850 MHz HSPA (3G on an iPhone).  This is better.  I live in Letellier and I have unplugged the cell booster in my house and I still have full service 3G now and can make phone calls just fine.  The LTE leaves something to be desired though, don't know why they would deploy AWS on a rural tower.

The other thing is going east of the tower towards DC, away from the "sectorized coverage" the signal is just fine. All our farmland is in about a 6 mile radius from this tower and I've gone to check signal at all of them, even the fields way out in the middle of nowhere have a good 3G signal and usually at least 2 bars of LTE so saying it's concentrated at highway 75 is nonsense.
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Hey, without my booster before I had basically no service at all in my house.  Maybe one bar if I was lucky but even then it was hit and miss.

With it I had enough confidence to cancel my landline, it would provide a solid enough signal for phone calls but data was still slow.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it.  It seems like I don't need it anymore, my sister lives just outside of Miami and the cell service at her place isn't very good, might see if she wants it.  If not, I would probably sell it.

We also had mobile boosters in three of our tractors, probably won't need those anymore.
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Right on always wondered about this things if your sister is not interested let me know I would probably consider buying it. Also just did a little test today from Dominion City to the Reserve I had 1-2 bars at H+ (good enough for calls)and download speeds of 1.8 mbps and then magically after the bridge on the Reserve boom 40-60 mbps of beautiful LTE. Oh well one day we will be on the map. But thanks for getting back to me have a good one.
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They might still be configuring the tower too, yesterday we brought a grain truck to G&L in DC and my brother was able to get 80 mbps of LTE by the golf course.  I was driving so I was unable to test.

I got a phone call while in Gary's shop there and it came through, no LTE in the building though, just 3G. (I use an iPhone, I'm not all that familiar with the icons on Android devices)

Heading out to Arnaud right now, will see what the signals look like again.  I hope things stay good out towards DC, we farm that field just east of town by the cemetery and that's just a huge dead zone.
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Right on buddy thanks we will get to the bottom of all this cellular doo doo. Also just saw all the previous posts that had been removed and I think that the creep factor from all types anonymous calls are a cry for help
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Just got back from Arnaud, I had full LTE signal to one mile east of river road, then it dropped to three bars.  When I got to 200 and turned north it was down to 2 bars.  After I crossed the river and got into the trees it dropped to 1 bar but never lost LTE.  Since I was driving and alone I wasn't able to run any speed tests.

On my way back I turned LTE off and had at least 3 bars 3G the entire way, once I came out of the trees heading south by the turnoff into DC I had full service all the way home.

But once you're in town with a bunch of houses around I'm sure the signal degrades a fair bit, I wouldn't be surprised if LTE disappears all together but you should have 3G.

If the signal sucks in your house but there's an OK signal outside, the booster would help a lot.  Whole time I had it I had it pointed at Emerson and it worked well.

As for the crazy posts that got deleted, pretty sure it's the same guy that got himself banned from Howardforums for not being able to handle being wrong and going off the deep end.  That was like 2 years ago.  Oh well, I see he got deleted here and I don't want to end up in the same boat so I won't talk about it anymore, maybe he will call me when I sell you my booster and we can all talk together?  He blocks his caller ID so I can't call him back.  Such a pity.

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Ware is Graham this day's he would be able to explain more, Did Bell tell him he can't post anymore?
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Right on Graham thanks for getting back to us. And Thank you for all the awesome work you do. Just wondering is it possible to boost the radius of the cell towers to extend coverage . I only ask because my house from the new tower is 8km and inside and outside my house I only get 1-2 bars of H+ unless I drive towards the 201. And even then download speeds are 2mbps. Thanks you your time.
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Hi Graham welcome back lol any idea when Bell MTS is rolling out volte or wifi calling yet? Thanks.
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Wi-Fi calling would be awesome a guy from town is with Rogers and he has Wi-Fi calling so his phone is being used as a phone and not just a monthly payment (smartphone) tablet
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I used to be with Rogers.  We even had a Wi-Fi network extender in our farm yard and Wi-Fi Calling worked great.  I switched to Telus because I wanted their Canada-US plan.  Unlimited roaming and unlimited US calling is pretty sweet.
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Yeah I guess I am just being needy and want fast speeds I have 4 kids and there always on there electronics leaving me with poor googling or gaming speed. But hey I don't mind paying the same amount as my family in Steinbach that has 3x the service and speeds as here. I might switch after all this too. Rant complete