Backup TV Recordings

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After having lost ALL our PVR recordings AGAIN, I think it would be a HUGE benefit to MTS customers if our PVR Recordings could be backed up and restored.  This would make having the PVR replaced MUCH less of a hassle if the recorded stuff could be recovered.  Even if there was a way we could manually plug a USB stick into the PVR to back things up that would be helpful.  I just don't buy the copywright excuse - How is it possible that every VCR and DVD recording device sold has managed to circumvent this "rule"?  Almost considering going back to the basics - at least I didn't lose what I recorded.
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This came up before,  If I remember correctly this can't be done because of the encryption that Microsoft/Ericsson use to protect the digital signals.  

That said there is nothing stopping someone from making an analog backup of a show (VCR).

If I remember correctly, and someone from MTS can correct me if I am wrong.  The content owners never wanted you to save a program in any way including on a VCR.  There was a law suit in the mid 1980 between Sony and Universal Studios.  Sony made betamax and they were sued to stop them from being sold.  Sony won in a very close Supreme Court ruling, ultimately on the premise that the VCR was allowing for private - in home - time shifting.  Which is what the PVR does today.

After that ruling a lot of content owners started using some encryption on their signals to stop a VCR from working.  I think the most popular one was called macrovision, and I seem to remember around 1986 not being able to record certain shows on Superchannel (the original Movie Central of today).

but overall the use of encryption of analog signals was not very successful, but with the shift to digital, content rights holders have been able to secure their digital signal.

HDMI signals are blocked from displaying on non-approved devices, but Component connections are not, as they convert the digital signal to analog.  through this method you can hook up a Tivo or other 3rd party PVR to your set-top box and record your programs that way.  

I have seen people who use component cable to go to a encoder box that is connected to a computer and save right to their computer.  I tried to build one about 6 years ago with a hauppauge hd PVR with some minor success but in the end the PVR MTS provided was far less of a hassle.

At the end of the day, it is the content rights holders who are preventing you from doing this, through the required application of technology in the distribution system.  You can definitely copy programs for your personal in home time shifting of content, but MTS, or Shaw, Telus, Bell,  or Rogers, for that matter,  just can't help facilitate you in copying programs.