Arnes Cell Site Needs Low Band LTE (Band 5)

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Currently the Arnes MTS cell site has HSPA 850Mhz and LTE on AWS Band 4. HSPA is really slow on busy weekends and the LTE on Band 4 isn't reaching any of the popular areas there most of the population is. I would think of low band LTE on band 5 was deployed in this area it would cover a lot more customers.
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Hi Dan,

No plans in 2016 to launch low band LTE at Arnes.  Things are still being formulated for 2017 though.

Thanks for your question.
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Is there any word on if this site will get low Band LTE in 2017? Also I noticed Gimli could very much benifit from low Band LTE as well. There are many areas between Gimli and Winnipeg Beach, and Gimli and Arnes that have dead zones. Wonder if LTE Band 5 would help with these areas as perhaps it would lessen the load on HSPA in the areas that are too far for AWS from this cell site. Would maybe help HSPA extend farther into those dead zones.
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I think the better, long term solution is to build towers between Winnipeg Beach and Gimli and Gimli and Arnes but build them more west so you start blanketing those areas with a triangle of towers. That said I am not a wireless network engineer but now those dead zones all too well, it is almost to the point at peak times where you need to sit at the foot of the tower to get a usable signal. That said, my wife has a phone that does LTE/HSPA/GSM fallback and seems to have "no issue" where my phone does "LTE/HSPA" and has issues in the same place same time of day. Could be her phone falls back gracefully to a less congested GSM.
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I agree with you CoryB. That would be a good fix for the issue, but I don't think they would do that anytime soon as that area is only heavy populated in the summer time. Also, Telus has towers in those areas you are talking about so if the BCE deal is approved I could see MTS havaing acess to those towers, but that leaves Rogers with the dead spots still as Rogers is providing the HSPA signal in both Gimli and WPG Beach. I have noticed my phone fall back to GSM as well driving along highway 8 between Arnes and Gimli.
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The dead zones start well before Winnipeg Beach and likely go past Arnes but I rarely go much past Arnes these days. I think a big part of the problem is the population tends to be fairly dense but wide hugging the shores of Lake Winnipeg.
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Filling in dead spots is one issue. Providing low band LTE, as the OP suggested, in an attempt to have better range and relieve an existing congestion problem is another. I don't think there is enough bandwidth available in the area to do any good anyways without major upgrades. Unfortunately, none of this appears likely to happen! Seems to be a common theme!
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I can tell you I was just in the area yesterday and no issues I found with congestion or not having enough bandwidth. On busy summer days yes the towers in that area cannot handle the intense traffic with the area being so populated. But again its the same as the example I always use, we can't build a 6 lane freeway in an area thats only beneficial for a shot period of time in the summer. All I am saying in this post is the current Band 4 LTE on the Arnes and Gimli tower does not reach out very far, with Band 5 it would reach out to more of the hard to reach areas maybe even into the dead zones.
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